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barry that shit in syd was fucked up, no one really said anything about it on the news and then it was done and gone but this just keeps going on bc of the cry babies in india

Another indian found dead in wagga wagga....how many more before people admit there is some sort of pattern

http://www.news.com.au/national/india-issues-official-warning-to-students-in-australia/story-e6frfkvr-1225816598628

181 homicides in 2008/2009, 2 indians are killed (by whom/what we don’t know), there is an issue with safety for students but i don’t see a racial pattern…

FunkyJunky, are u sure u got your numbers right or did u download a random number generator from Google? lol way more than 2 Indians killed and i would put the figure quite high in the assaults column towards south Asians.

The issue has become big enough for a travel warning to be issued, and Victorian police have even backed the travel warning so has the department in charge of international students.

I suggest people go and talk to some Indian students i am sure you would be surprised to hear some of the racial things they have experienced here in Melbourne. Like i mentioned earlier im of Pakistani origin and i have experienced quite a bit of racism from people and if u do break it down the vast majority of the people who have said racist stuff to me have been white and of Aussie/English backgrounds.

There is a flip side to all of this. I agree that initially the Indian government had been over reacting and a bit hypocritical i find it hard to understand that they can sit back and call Australia racist when in fact they still have no issue with their own cruel caste system that they have back in India so on that front calling Australia racist over the actions of a few is not right, with that in mind i still believe there is a pattern in Indian people being targeted.

I would also suggest reading local Australian/Indian newspapers found in Indian shops to read how many people are being attacked. People say that its not only Indians that are getting attacked, but to me it seems like only the Indian community seem to care about their fellow people. If there was not a pattern we wouldn’t have a help line to assist Indian students in-case they are in trouble, there wouldn’t be groups of Indians waiting at train stations to ensure that their fellow people are arriving home safely. This is what happens when a government and law enforcement agencies fail to realize that this is a growing issue.

the way ive seen it is when some white dude or a asian dude gets stabbed there is no big deal about but when a curry gets it, fuck its like they lost the cricket world cup due to betting scandals
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watever it happens to everyone
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so many racist kunts around in aus

Here’s an interesting ABS article from 2007 - MIGRANTS’ EXPERIENCES OF CRIME VICTIMISATION -

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/3416.0Main Features32007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=3416.0&issue=2007#=&view;=

In summary the findings at the time, based on info collected in 2006, were that:

- the rate of violence experienced by migrants was just over half the rate for people born in Australia
- the rate of violence experienced by migrants from non-Main English Speaking (MES) countries was less than half the rate for Australian-born
- for migrants born in countries where English was not the main language spoken, the rate of violence experienced by people with poor English skills was no different to the rate experienced by people proficient in English
- the rate of violence experienced by males born in a non-MES country was about one third the rate of violence experienced by Australian-born males.

You can interpret this in a couple of ways, in the absence of more info. Basically, the data is inaccruate anyway, as it’s swayed by reporting rates.

But that aside you can either decide that
a) all this is just media hype, and people from non-MES background arent really being victimised, as the stats state.
b) this data is old and that things have changed drastically since 2006/2007; or
c) the rate of victimisation of non-MES background people has increased compared to previous rates, and that in itself is cause for concern, even if the rates are still low.

I think it’s a combination of all three. I’d say that non-MES people are not being victimised more than general members of the community, however the face of the Victorian crime scene has changed significantly. We have seen an increase in the overall number of violent crimes against victims unknown to the offender in the last few years. The most telling statistic will be whether the increase in violent victimisation of non-MES people has increased at the same rate, or at a greater rate than what we’re seeing in the general community. From what i’ve seen it is, but unfortunately we probably wont know for sure for years, and even then we wont have accurate info.

For some reason it wont show the link as an actual link, so just copy and paste the whole lot into your browser

imo there isn’t a racial problem in melbourne big enough to incite homicide against indians.
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there have been violent attacks against indians and they ‘seem’ to have escalated in the past few months - no one would deny that.  however, the segway from violent attacks to racial motivation is a bit of a stretch.
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media sensationalism and the henny-penny-esque “the sky is falling” mentality being adopted by ‘some’ - that this is racism - could actually incite unrest that could manifest into racism.  there needs to be a bit more open listening and a little less victim mentality here.
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to highlight the possibility of an underlying sinister issue, i.e. racism, is one thing.  to point fingers and stick rigidly to an misinformed opinion is quite another. 
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a problem can only be fixed if the people involved are genuinely interested in fixing it - wildly pointing fingers doesn’t smack of genuine intent. 
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i think Ant1’s quite right in his view that this more likely to be a symptom of a decline in our society’s values, rather than a racial problem as violence has increased steadily across the entire community, not just one.
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if i had balls and could actually bet with them, i’d bet the left one that this racism angle is nothing more than bought-into-media-hype.

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/retrievemedia.asp?Media_ID=32668
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Specifically saying it was race related to a certain group being targeted is wrong when imo everyone is racist and this crime needs to be punished. Doing metal detection at footscray station? WTF! Interviewing random people who had nothing to do with it (with a full news camera there) asking about the issue is weird! The murder in wagga wagga they have appointed a indian punjab/hindi speaking person? Why those languages if the person was from another race? I was also reading a report that on average there are 4 attacks/situations per day on asian/indian students. The international education system makes 17 billions dollars a year (australia’s 4th highest export) the government needs to do more relating to student safety, accomodation and the over priced education for internationals!
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http://www.news.com.au/national/police-smeared-in-indian-newspaper-as-ku-klux-klan/story-e6frfkw0-1225817199443

mate that KKK shit is fucken horrible
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fuck those kunts in india and there brainless government
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cant believe how fucken stupid those ppl are over there

Another NOT RACIALLY MOTIVATED attack on an indian in melbourne

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/992168/attackers-set-melbourne-man-on-fire

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/car-torched-indian-burned/story-e6frewt0-1225817683446
Witnesses before and after the attack didn’t see any one… He parked down the street from home, then runs to a friends house a couple of blocks away rather than going directly back home which was closer, or even directly to a near by house! You were on fire!!! His discarded burnt clothing can’t be found??? *cough* Insurance job gone wrong *cough*
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/992381/two-men-detained-over-stabbing-death
Two Indians detained trying to leave the country that were owed money by the deceased Indian…

wow there making headlines everwhere

I can’t wait to hear the final verdict on these two cases.

why would u park ur car down the street for?
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i wonder if the ppl in india will say anything about the other story, there probably thinking “it was 2 indians that burnt another indian, oh no that could never happen” yep bc indians never do anything wrong